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Why do Liverpool keep getting the same referees?

Why do Liverpool keep getting the same referees?

You will be aware that Untold has held strong views about the PGMO, how they keep appointing the same referees over and over again and how they continually fail to have sufficient referees for the PL.

So far this season the PGMO have utilised all the 17 referees on their ‘Select list’ and, in addition, four more have done one game each.  Of those on the Select list eight have done 20 games or more whilst three have done fewer than 10 games.  It looks to me like there are only eight referees really trusted.  If the other nine are allowed to do games for some teams why not all of them?

But either they are competent or not, and surely all of the teams in the PL deserve an equal standard of refereeing.  I am sick to death of seeing Atkinson, Dean, Kavanagh, Tierney and Attwell.  I wouldn’t mind too much if I felt they were all 100% competent but they all show that they are at best erratic and at worst downright strange in their decision making.

It’s not only Arsenal that is affected by repeat refereeing though.

The runaway leaders Liverpool have only seen 11 referees.  Anthony Taylor has done most matches with  (plus another 2 as Video Referee).  To date no other club has had a referee six times.  Paul Tierney has been involved the most (9 matches) if we include his appearances as fourth official as well as Video referee – he has been involved in 30% of the Liverpool games.  Oliver, Taylor and Moss have also been involved in over a quarter of their games with six, Marriner and Pawson have been involved in over a fifth of Liverpool’s games.

Liverpool As Referee As 4th Official As Video ref Total Involvement Involvement % of games played
Michael Oliver 6 0 2 8 27.6%
Anthony Taylor 4 3 1 8 27.6%
Paul Tierney 2 1 6 9 31.0%
Craig Pawson 1 1 4 6 20.7%
Martin Atkinson 3 0 1 4 13.8%
Chris Kavanagh 3 0 1 4 13.8%
Jon Moss 3 4 1 8 27.6%
Andre Marriner 3 1 3 7 24.1%

Sheffield United have had the joint most referees with 16, they also have the fewest serial visitors with two, but even with them things are odd.  They have had both David Coote (total 11 matches in the PL) and Simon Hooper (9 matches) on four occasions – 40% of the total games the two of them have been in charge of.

As we keep saying the numbers don’t give a lot of confidence that match fixing in the PL can’t occur.  The practices in place don’t appear to be sufficient to preclude the possibility of outside influences affecting results.

Here are the total matches allocated to each of the PL referees this season:

 

Games including matchweek 29

(7-9/03/20)

Martin Atkinson 25
Anthony Taylor 23
Michael Oliver 23
Mike Dean 22
Paul Tierney 20
Kevin Friend 20
Chris Kavanagh 20
Jonathan Moss 20
Andre Marriner 17
Craig Pawson 15
Graham Scott 15
Stuart Attwell 15
Lee Mason 13
David Coote 11
Simon Hooper 9
Peter Bankes 7
Andy Madley 9
Oliver Langford 1
Robert Jones 1
Darren England 1
Tim Robinson 1

The next question to ask is “is this situation common across the other European Leagues? »  With a little digging and using data readily available on the internet here are comparable figures for total games across the other 4 major European leagues:-

Germany – Bundesliga

Referees Total games (to 23/2/20)
Dr. Felix Brych 12
Tobias Stieler 12
Markus Schmidt 11
Felix Zwayer 11
Daniel Siebert 11
Marco Fritz 11
Manuel Gräfe 10
Deniz Aytekin 10
Bastian Dankert 10
Harm Osmers 10
Sascha Stegemann 10
Christian Dingert 9
Frank Willenborg 9
Benjamin Cortus 9
Sven Jablonski 9
Patrick Ittrich 8
Daniel Schlager 8
Martin Petersen 7
Guido Winkmann 6
Dr. Robert Kampka 6
Robert Hartmann 6
Robert Schröder 6
Sören Storks 5
Tobias Welz 4
Bibiana Steinhaus 4

So in a smaller league, we have 25 referees used, one female (Bibiana Steinhaus), none more than 12 times and none  fewer than four.

Spain – La Liga

Referees Total games (to 23/2/20)
Antonio Miguel Matéu Lahoz 14
Estrada Fernández 14
Mario Melero López 14
Jesús Gil Manzano 14
Adrián Cordero Vega 14
Guillermo Cuadra Fernández 14
Javier Alberola Rojas 14
Juan Martínez Munuera 13
Medié Jiménez 13
César Soto Grado 13
José María Sánchez Martínez 13
Valentin Pizarro Gomez 13
Pablo González Fuertes 13
José Luis Munuera Montero 13
Carlos Del Cerro Grande 12
Eduardo Prieto Iglesias 12
González González 11
Santiago Jaime Latre 11
De Burgos Bengoetxea 11
Andrés Hernández 7
Alejandro Hernández 6

21 referees, all engaged in between 14 and 6 matches

Italy – Serie A

Referee Total games (to 23/2/20)
Maurizio Mariani 14
Rosario Abisso 13
Federico La Penna 13
Davide Massa 13
Marco Di Bello 12
Daniele Doveri 12
Daniele Orsato 12
Gianluca Rocchi 12
Gianpaolo Calvarese 11
Daniele Chiffi 11
Piero Giacomelli 11
Marco Guida 11
Fabio Maresca 11
Fabrizio Pasqua 11
Marco Piccinini 11
Michael Fabbri 10
Antonio Giua 10
Massimiliano Irrati 10
Luca Pairetto 10
Paolo Valeri 10
Gianluca Manganiello 9
Eugenio Abbattista 2
Juan Luca Sacchi 2
Manuel Volpi 2
Gianluca Aureliano 1
Giovanni Ayroldi 1
Francesco Fourneau 1
Livio Marinelli 1
Alessandro Prontera 1
Riccardo Ros 1
Simone Sozza 1

21 referees with between 14 and 9 matches with a further10 used for either 1 or 2 matches each

Finally France – Ligue 1

Name Matches to date
Antony Gautier 16
Hakim Ben El Hadj 15
Ruddy Buquet 15
Willy Delajod 15
Johan Hamel 14
Frank Schneider 14
Jérôme Brisard 13
Amaury Delerue 13
Mikael Lesage 13
François Letexier 13
Karim Abed 12
Florent Batta 12
Thomas Leonard 12
Jérémy Stinat 12
Clément Turpin 12
Eric Wattellier 12
Benoît Bastien 11
Jérémie Pignard 11
Olivier Thual 11
Stéphanie Frappart 10
Benoît Millot 9
Jérôme Miguelgorry 4
Alain Bieri 1

23 Referees in total, one female (Stéphanie Frappart) and Alain Bieri is Swiss not French.  With he and Migulgorry excepted all between 16 and 9 games.

So we can clearly see that the UK pattern of refereeing is out of kilter with all of the other major leagues in Europe.  Our busiest referee has done 25 matches as against 16 in France, 14 in Spain and Italy and 12 in Germany.

All of the other leagues have more referees and the individual workload is far more evenly spread between them than is the case in England.

The more one looks at the data the odder it appears.

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Arsenal v Fiorentina Women’s Champions League second leg – The Untold Preview

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Arsenal v Fiorentina Women’s Champions League second leg – The Untold Preview

This is a quick preview before I set off for Borehamwood to watch the game

For those of you who don’t keep up with our Women’s team, we won the away leg on 12 September by four goals to nil.  Here is a link to the match report on the official arsenal website. https://www.arsenal.com/fixture/women/2019-Sep-12/fiorentina-women-0-4-women-match-report.

First half goals by Vivianne Miedema and Kim Little settled any Arsenal nerves and in the second half a second by Miedema followed almost immediately by a fourth from Lisa Evans gave the Italians no opportunity of staging a comeback.  All in all it was a thoroughly professional performance and makes us firm favourites to progress to the last 16 of this tournament.

The match is at Meadow Park, Borehamwood this evening with a 19:30 kickoff and will be shown live on the Arsenal website to all of you who have a digital membership.  I would, however, strongly suggest that any of you who can get to the ground do so as support in person is so important for the players on the pitch and is really the best way to appreciate the game.  The in ground catering is fully recommended and it is a nice place to watch football.  The women’s games are also very cheap to watch and you will be able to get tickets on the gate.  You will also be able to get player autographs after the game and may well find your self sitting next to player’s families or friends.  Talk to the person next to you you never know who it will be.

Our players are in the middle of a heavy run of fixtures, this will be the fifth match in 2weeks and we play again on Sunday so the Manager, Joe Montemurro, will certainly be rotating the squad and some of the players who started on Sunday will certainly drop to the bench.

Last Sunday, Lia Walti and Emma Mitchell made their first starts of the season after recovering from injury and Jordan Nobbs continued her comeback playing the full game.  I would expect all three of them to be on the bench tonight.  Beth Mead has played every game so far this season and may well be rested with a view to starting against Brighton on Sunday.  Louise Quinn withdrew during the warmup with a tight hamstring and again will probably not be risked tonight.

Team

Pauline Peyraud-Magnin also had her first start in goal and did nothing wrong so may well start again tonight.

In defence, Leonie Maier should continue at Right Back with Jeb Beattie and Viktoria Schnaderbeck at Centre Back, Katie McCabe will probably start at Left Back

In Midfield I would expect to see Kim Little return and wear the Captain’s armband, she will likely be paired with Leah Williamson and Jill Roord

In attack I wouldn’t be surprised to see Melissa Filis start (if she is fit after playing on both Saturday and Sunday) alongside Dutch Duo Vivianne Miedema and Danielle Van de Donk

Subs (subject to fitness)

Zinsberger (GK), Quinn (CB), Grant (Attack), Mead (attack), Nobbs (MF), Walti (MF), Mitchell (LB)

The coverage on arsenal.com starts at 19:15, I’ll try and post updates occasionally from the ground.